A reddit for the Bleach manga & anime by Tite Kubo. Yama 1000 years ago is Kenpachi minus ever putting restraints on himself. I can't recall another Captain training with Yama other then Zaraki and no one other than unohana has seen Kenpachi at his full power and that was as a child. turn back the pendulums are usually awesome tho'. He'll probably win again. Round 1 Yamamoto only with his shikai and kido vs goku red hair Round 2 Yamamoto bankai vs goku blue hair Round 3 Yamamoto bankai vs goku super … For all we know Yhwach couldn't have defeated Yamamoto without stealing his Bankai. It just means you don't want to risk defeat. Ichibei was surprised as fuck when Yhwack pulled out his schrift...so why would it make sense that he used it 1000 years ago, when the RG had intel on that fight and didn't know about it? This is the Humiliation Yhwach was talking about. Almighty Yhwach VERSUS Prime Yamamoto... ON PANEL!!!! Because of the panel that has nimaiya saying: "The only intel we have on him is his battle 1000 years ago and the copy he made". As for how Yamamoto beat him 1000 years ago, according to nimaiya, Yhwach didn't use very many abilities and probably not his shcrift, otherwise the RG would have more intel on him (because they got their intel from that fight 1000 years ago) 8 … Hollowfied Yamamoto vs Yhwach. Totally not Senna. The fact remains that he lost to Yamamoto a 1000 years ago, and Yamamoto won without even using all of his bankai powers. He clearly had no problem overcoming Ichibei in bankai, but didn't even try to defeat Yamamoto without stealing his. The SK betrayed one of his own , i'm guessing he chose the lesser evil. I think that gives a hint to just how devastating ZnT is. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Yhwach (bleach) vs naruto, sasuke, hagoromo and hamura (naruto) Casual This is Yhwach with the Almighty, Absorption of the Soul King, Yamamoto bankai, & can use all abilities of the Sternritter Yamamoto was kinda tired and lacking his most powerful tool, Yhwack did nothing apart from summoning an arrow broadsword and bifurcating the guy. IMO, with this new info, Yhwack wrecks him. Press J to jump to the feed. Look bro , if Yama-ji is the sun's representation , and Yhwach is God , how would a star beat God? If you go back and look at the panel where the true Yhwach reveals himself, Yama jumps into bankai immediately. level 1. I'm aware of Yamamoto's bankai greatness but who the hell sealed Yhwach is what I want to know. T. tari101190 Well-Known Member. 12. Also Yhwach wasn't almighty back then I think. After he betrayed his "son" parts of himself started to betray him in return thus leaving him powerless and alone in the front of the shinigami. In fact, Sankt altar backfired on him. Yama is shit compared to Ichibei and Ywach forced Ichibei to use his bankai while Ywach was doing nothing besides defending and he used his schrift and pierced through Ichibei. I think Yama could've still won. Yamamoto didn't , it was the Soul King that "defeated" Yhwach, the SK must of performed his own version of Asshaulen on Yhwach , thus leaving YH into nothing but a powerless baby . To simply increase his chances of winning. His bankai is also insanely overpowered. This is also before Yhwach absorbed the souls of the dead stern ritter / absorbed the soul king. Venerated for his power, skill and wisdom, his word was the ultimate letter of the law in Soul Society. All assertions without any root in reality because we don't know. Also, he used his shrift to overcome Ichibei, along with Sankt Altar, both of which he didn't try against Yamamoto. He literally obliterated him. This might be interesting once we see the full scope of Ywach's power but, for now, I'd go with Yama in a non-plot driven fight. 1000 years ago yes, but this time around: Yhwack didn't use schrift or auswahlen many other powers 1000 years ago (basically any powers that the RG isn't aware of is a power he didn't use 1000 years ago, because the RG have intel on that fight). Unless more intel on this battle is revealed, it is assumed that it was a battle based on reiatsu. by being a boss, and just being stronger. pls kubo. ywach said that yamamato was ruthless 1000 years ago and hes gotten "soft". Otherwise, their skill sets should be known. 22. Ywach is gonna rekt Yamamoto with ease even with Bankai cause he can just steal Yamamoto's power without the medaillon. 21. share. 26. That fight isn't anything like how a full power Yhwack vs Yamamoto fight would go... maybe because yhwach wasn't as powerful 1000 years ago, Didn't Yama already beat him? Actually Yamamoto having existence erasure is supported by the fact that fake Yhwach was fine next to 15 million degree human sized sun and said … How could a tiny grain of sand in the universe be able to Overpower God? So, it's hard to gauge what his "full power" would actually be. the original gotei 13 were apparently just a bunch of criminals that were uber strong. Nope, I've got nothin' like that. 5 years ago. He was a tyrant murderer that organized the greatest fighting force in history and overthrew the group that organized the souls of the world. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Emotions? Report Save. Otherwise, their skill sets should be known. Yhwach, Ichigo, Aizen, Ichibei as the god tier Yamamoto, Haschwalth, Uryu, Lille, Gerard, Shunsui, Toshiro, Pernida, Kenpachi, Askin/Gremmy and some other who had fought the Schutzstaffel and Unohana/Royd as the top tier And in my opinion, in that tier Kenpachi lack the hax to compete If Ywach was that powerful, why did he have to steal Yama's bankai first, and then defeat him? or that Yamamoto lacked the will to finish Yhwach for some reason...I actually think Yhwach will eventually be portrayed as some kind of fallen prince to whom Yamamoto felt some degree of loyalty during that previous fight. So, his counter to Yamamoto's abilities was to seal his bankai, like Aizen did. So, that would mean neither Yamamoto or Yhwach fought at full power in the past. 4 years ago. it could mean that ywach beat yamamoto. Posted by 6 years ago. maybe yhwach and the soul king were part of a dynasty in the SS....yama was probably a general that lead a rebellion against a corrupt dynasty....soul king changed his mind and yielded and punished his son yhwach for his crimes.....and the soul king delegated both his power and his authority to the shinigami and the central 46 and went into a slumber, yama probably was able to defeat yhwach through a combination of forbidden kido, his bankai, if anything the soul king may have auswahhlened yhwach as a last ditch effort to protect himself. With the seal. Yhwach é um homem muito amador, odeia qualquer tipo de conflito e acredita que as batalhas não têm sentido. We'll have all the answers on another turn back the pendulum arc ! Após um tempo, Yhwach começou a desprezar os valores da justiça e honra, virando uma pessoa completamente diferente. I don't know. Yhwach vs. Yama again would be prefect. Yama held back 1,000 years ago. Yhwach did not know about Zanka No Tachi's full abilities and the Royal Guard had no idea about Yhwach's full powers. Report Save. Yamamoto was a guy who wouldn't let you become a traitor because he killed everyone who even thought about going against him. I don't think we know all of Yhwach's powers yet. You can see the resolve to thrash Yhwach in him. Yhwack vs Yamamoto, Full Power. I always felt like it would have been a stalemate. Why would Yhwach have not used his schrift a thousand years ago? When the Old Man was killed by Ywach I was devastated. Was it the same group of people that sealed the Soul King? For real, Yamamoto probably started blowing up seated officers to make a smokescreen to prepare the seal he was going to use. The Royal Guard appears to have the upper hand so far but that could all change when the Quincy king joins the fight. Share. Jun 29, 2015 #2 I'm hoping we could get glimpses of the fight, but it wouldn't be the full thing. level 2. Yama lead that group of shinigami with ever growing power for 1000 years and no one had been born who had more raw energy than him. Do the Shinigamihave an ace up their sleeve as well? 3rd Raikage: The tankiest ninja in Naruto series capable of fighting with the 8th tailed beast to a standstill and only getting injured by his own attack. Didn't Yhwach already beat Yamamoto........? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. he would have beaten him again if it wasn't for that meddlin lloyd. So, that would mean neither Yamamoto or Yhwach fought at full power in the past. In order to consider a win in the Hogyoku version fights , he has to force him to evolve and he wins-Round 1: Shinigami Aizen - … Close. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. A reddit for the Bleach manga & anime by Tite Kubo. Yhwach still? It wasn't just because I liked Yamato it's because he was absolutely humiliated by Ywach and then killed. If you could increase your chances from 80% to 99%, why wouldn't you? Not even my final form. Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto was the captain of the Gotei 13's 1st Division and the most powerful Shinigami alive. Yamamoto: The head captain of the Gotei 13 . SPOILERS CONTAINED THROUGHOUT. Yhwach has the ability to know the opponent's abilities and knows exactly how to counter it. Press J to jump to the feed. Archived. I think Yama mentioned that he did not use his full power when they fought 1000 years ago. He beat him after stealing his bankai. The battle for the royal palace heats up as the Royal Guard and the Quincy invaders continue their standoff. I think Yama mentioned that he did not use his full power when they fought 1000 years ago. ... Yhwack wrecks him. Yhwach states that Yama got weak and fragile during the absence of any real threats. However, as soon as Yhwach steals Yama's bankai, Yama gives up. Ele admirava muito o Gotei 13 antigo, pois eles eram Shinigamis que davam medo, principalmente Yamamoto. Yamamoto and the 13 court guards were ruthless criminals back then, Yhwach himself states that Yamamoto was a freak of nature in terms of power. As for how Yamamoto beat him 1000 years ago, according to nimaiya, Yhwach didn't use very many abilities and probably not his shcrift, otherwise the RG would have more intel on him (because they got their intel from that fight 1000 years ago). It doesnt mean you're inferior. Who wins? Hollowfied Yamamoto vs Yhwach. mayuri stated that he failed to kill ywach. I'd say a bankai Yamamoto would have been able to take on Yhwach easily at the time. Both get full knowledge of Each other's abilities. Yamamoto can't attack babies as we know it , that's why he couldn't strike him down then. Share. Otherwise, why would Ywach develop something that could steal bankais. 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